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#1 magie

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 11:44 PM

Hi all

Long time not been in touch ? Sorry been buzy :cheer:

Does anyone know about Reproductins of past artist works - I mean not in full - just some parts?

I have some very old Polish mags with some illustrations by some of the best graphic designers like Roman Cieslewicz - but I ma not sure what to do with them?

So I just wonder if I could do some reproduction of them???

Any ideas??

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#2 Deco

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Posted 05 August 2005 - 08:14 AM

I don't think there is a problem to make reproductions of what you want, but if you ask can you sell them it's a different question. I remember we had a similar topic, but about reproducing sculptures:

http://arttrade.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=376

it might be useful as info.
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Posted 05 August 2005 - 08:17 AM

Sorry but just saw the topic is in the private forum - Bright ideas,
so I'll post some quotes:

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Copyright of visual art - Under the Berne Convention, each and every work of art is either a copyrighted work or one in "the public domain." If the artist is alive or has been dead less than seventy years, all rights to reproductions of his or her work reside with the artist or with the artist's estate.

The Fair Use Provision of the Copyright Act states:

    §107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair Use
    Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -
    1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
    2 . the nature of the copyrighted work;
    3 . the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole;
    4 . the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
    The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.


Public Domain:
When an artist has been dead more than seventy years, his or her work is in the public domain. Reproduction rights are then concerned with rights held by those who have produced photographs of the works (in other words, if you took a snapshot of a public domain work yourself, you could do anything you want with it). Normally, museums have commissioned photographs of their works and thus hold the rights to these photographs to be used in reproduction. So, a first step here would be to contact the museum where the work is held.

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#4 magie

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Posted 05 August 2005 - 10:10 PM

Thanks Deco – I did hear these quotes but also I heard that

1. If for example - an image would be changed in 80 % of the artwork = that is OK

2. If the illustrations were produced in a magazine – to support the articles and if you purchased such magazine it is your property, which you can use it as one pleases – is this Wright?

3. So if I ma organising exhibition and want to base it on past artist works/illustrations that would go under QUOTE - 1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;?
Have a look at some examples of the magazines but I think I would need to preserve them in some way like laminating or something else – need to also find out more about preservation of paper prints!

http://www.geocities.com/mpgraphics2001/roman_cieslewicz.htm

I should really donate them to a Polish museum I think?
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#5 Graeme

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Posted 05 August 2005 - 11:35 PM

Hi magie,

I hope I am going to be of help here, rather than be a doom & gloom merchant, so here goes

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1. If for example - an image would be changed in 80 % of the artwork = that is OK

Unfortunately untrue. If the new work is based on an original work or if it includes elements of the original which are involved in the make up of the new work however placed, then copyright / intellectual property rights will be seen to breached. Unless copyright has expired of course.
You could however reproduce the 'style' of art as long as you're not selling it with a Cieslewicz signature on it. :P


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2. If the illustrations were produced in a magazine – to support the articles and if you purchased such magazine it is your property, which you can use it as one pleases – is this Wright?

Works may be reproduced for the purpose of review, critique ,education etc or as you say to support an article but copyright of those images still remains the property of the author (artist) and permission should be sought before publication as he may put forward a moral obligation requirement for the use of his work. Although they may be reproduced for the above this does not give you rights over those images.
The magazine does indeed become your property, but its content does not. It may not be reproduced without prior permission from the author.

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3. So if I ma organising exhibition and want to base it on past artist works/illustrations that would go under QUOTE - 1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;?
Have a look at some examples of the magazines but I think I would need to preserve them in some way like laminating or something else – need to also find out more about preservation of paper prints!

Again, there are moral obligations usually involved in the showing of works so permission should be sought before any exhibition of copyrighted images but if the exhibition is for educational purposes there shouldn't be a problem.
If you have original magazines do not laminate them. This automatically renders them worthless, and the best way to protect them is with a tissue paper wrapping and stored flat in an archivists file. Do a google search on correct storage and preservation techniques. :manoyes:



I may be going slightly over the top, but having been stung before with someone reproducing my work (not very well either) I know what it feels like to have your property used without permission. :ph34r:
Do check out the DACS website though and another good one is Artquest.org.uk. They are full of info, and another for you is intellectual-property.gov.uk which is very useful. Bear in mind though that law is different for other countries and the above is only relevant to the UK.

As I said, I hope this helps. ;)

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 07:39 AM

Graeme, on Aug 6 2005, 01:35 AM, said:

I may be going slightly over the top, but having been stung before with someone reproducing my work (not very well either) I know what it feels like to have your property used without permission. :ph34r:


Really? :P It's disgusting! :manoyes: Did you find a way to protect your rights?
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Posted 06 August 2005 - 03:14 PM

Yes... got my big brother :ph34r:

Oops, forgot to mention that he's a barrister :manoyes:

#8 peter

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 03:35 PM

Peter now checks all communications to make sure he has said nothing libelous regarding ducks. :manoyes:

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 06:05 PM

Very funny Peter :manoyes:

#10 magie

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 02:21 PM

Thanks Graeme for the last post and sorry to hear about your bad experience on the copyright issue! :ph34r:

I was thinking only to reproduce for the porpoise of education and/or – memory kind of way –not completely sure yet – but it will come to me – some day.!

Thanks for the tips about conservation I need to look into it? Funny! – I was thinking about laminating just for the exhibition - as one of the magazines issue is already felling apart?

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One more question – whom do I approach for the copyright? 1. The publishers or the Cieslewicz estate – I know there is gallery in France dedicated to his works?:manoyes:


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#11 hawkwood

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Posted 17 August 2005 - 05:33 PM

I'd start with the gallery, they will be able at the very least to tell you who owns the rights to which image :)

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Posted 06 February 2006 - 06:06 PM

When doing art work copyright is always important and make sure that you dont give out your orignal work. You can also register your visual arts ove the US Copyirght Office, i just dont know if some other countries have this. I think there is a $30 dollar fee for you registartion, but at least you got the copyright and security of your designs and art works.

A good way of guarding your works is by disabling right clicks on your website, you can search programming scripts on google and apply it on your website.

You can also use a digital watermark, softwares that offers this kind of services can be found on the internet. It embeds an invisble code into your art work.





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