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[Stickmaker]

Hi All , Remember the two sketches that i posted a while back, i finished the one off and posted
i.e. Acrlic - Goldfinch . This is the other sketch , ive done this in water colour but had not had any
tuition at art class on any type of painting at this time.SO please give as much criticisium as you like,
it can only help me to see errors etc which is what i need. I did show it to my tutor at art class last
week and will tell you of what he said in a later posting .

This post has been edited by Neo_Art: Sep 23 2007, 09:07 PM

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[Neo_Art]

Add a link to the other thread

I'm not a critic Stickmaker and my personal opinion is that you've done a great job!

Well done!

[Helz]

Hi Stickmaker... considering you've not had lessons in watercolour I think you have done an AMAZING job !

I feel there are a couple things that could be different. Firstly, the background is strong and competes with the bird. If the background was more washed out and watery, it would throw the bird into the foreground. Also the foot grasping the branch seems wrong, I feel it should be clinging around the branch. Finally, the fence in the middle ground feels too big for me.

On the positive side, I think you've done a brilliant job on the branch and the lichen on it... must be all the stick work you've done!! Also the feather work is fab!

Helz x

[Deco]

Hi Stickmaker ,

I agree with all that Helz said about the drawing
I'd add just two things - the dividing line between the sky and field
on the background is too sharp, you should use for the background
colours which are of similar range

Think it's not bad idea if you study chiaroscuro when you draw
birds/animals - the same as in graphic drawings refers to water-colour drawings.
I mean that Kestrel looks a bit flat not 3D as it should.

Would recommend two books if you're interested

http://www.arttrade.net/cgi-bin/shop/amazo...emId=0130477877

http://www.arttrade.net/cgi-bin/shop/amazo...emId=082300256X

I would again echo Helz - for a person that not had lessons in watercolour
you've done very good work - the colour palette is excellent

[Stickmaker]

Hi All , Thank's to each of you for your interest and comments . I shall take heed of them . NAY i have actioned them !! Due to unforseen matters i missed art class tonight .The tutor last week said "Idont like the fence , to big ,dont like the trees in the bottom left hand corner.was pleased about wing flights but req's more small feathering light required on bird to give depth ; foreground shall i go on ?ANYWAY , he did give me a wartercolour to do which i finished (does need a little more work) . He did say i hadn't done to bad at all ?please take a look at painting again i feel there is an area that i should improve but i don't know if i could do it . When tryng to put on "highlights" on the body of the bird i struggled as the highlight just changed into a darker colour ???(this is not the area that i think that i should improve) Have made enquires about the two books suggested. Regards Stickmaker

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[Helz]

With watercolours, highlights are not added afterwards but left as blank areas ie showing the white paper and very slightly colouring if necessary. I do think this looks better without the fence, it seems less complicated now.

If it were me Stickmaker, I would use this one as a learning piece as I think it really has got great potential... your drawing skills are very good! If you try to add more now, it might end up very "muddy" looking. My advice would be to follow some excercises from a book etc just to give yourself more confidence and techniques. Then re-do this one and I believe you will be much happier with it from the start.

I use to really begrudge "wasting" a picture and the paper. Now I accept that I HAVE to do one rough picture and follow it with a re-work because the rough was to learn the layout, colours, techniques etc. Occasionally the rough is good enough to use, but not very often!! That's the problem with watercolours, you can't re-work them on the same paper like you can with acrylics and oils.

Helz x

[Stickmaker]

Hi Helz, Thanks for the input. I have used this painting as a learning piece. I have altered the bird again in several areas to make it look better. I shall not do it again but will hopefully use what I have learned off it. I believe that the paper has not been wasted if lessons have been learned. I understand what you mean by "muddy" as I can see this occurring in part of the background I have done, I also see that I have not used the water colours as some would i.e. leaving some "white paper" but I have a long way to go yet. Perhaps after the next painting I will return to the stickmaking for a change. Have a look at this picture then. Best regards Stickmaker.

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[housedoc]

Hi Stickmaker - your doing really well and as Deco and Helz say at least you are learning all the time by doing what your doing and then getting 'critique' from it from our two good 'critiquers' (not sure if I've spelt that right or even if it is the right word!! ) Ah well you know what I mean